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	<description>Innovation, social media, PR and music. My mum still thinks I work at Sainsburys.</description>
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		<title>By: Ethiobeauty89</title>
		<link>http://rock-star-pr.com/is-a-public-relations-degree-worth-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7453</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethiobeauty89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to get my degree in PR but I am really scared. I don&#039;t know if i will enjoy doing it for long time. I am sooo confused :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to get my degree in PR but I am really scared. I don&#39;t know if i will enjoy doing it for long time. I am sooo confused <img src='http://rock-star-pr.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: H  Fowler</title>
		<link>http://rock-star-pr.com/is-a-public-relations-degree-worth-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7426</link>
		<dc:creator>H  Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great website by the way. PR to me is the art of communication, it doesn&#039;t matter if the company you represent is large or small, the one I represent at the moment is small with a small s!  I love the psychology behind marketing. Trying to figure out what makes people tick, what they respond to. . ,The ideas are easy to come by-its the implmentation thats a challenge! Don&#039;t know about a degree in PR it might be really beneficial, although it sounds like a cliche I think life long learning goes a long way though . I do think you do have to be creative though and genuinely get excited about your idaes. Maybe a little eccentric too?  I speak only for myself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great website by the way. PR to me is the art of communication, it doesn&#39;t matter if the company you represent is large or small, the one I represent at the moment is small with a small s!  I love the psychology behind marketing. Trying to figure out what makes people tick, what they respond to. . ,The ideas are easy to come by-its the implmentation thats a challenge! Don&#39;t know about a degree in PR it might be really beneficial, although it sounds like a cliche I think life long learning goes a long way though . I do think you do have to be creative though and genuinely get excited about your idaes. Maybe a little eccentric too?  I speak only for myself!</p>
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		<title>By: Clare Siobhan Callery &#8211; PR Intern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare Siobhan Callery &#8211; PR Intern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For some employers, there has always been a &#8216;dark cloud&#8217;, if you will, around the idea of a PR degree. Some argue that it doesn&#8217;t really teach PR and only work experience is needed along with a &#8216;more academic&#8217; degree. Indeed I have worked with and watched students in my class who do very little work and have poor attendance go on to make it through to the next year; something that a student studying subjects like English or Chemistry would not have been able to do. My college at Wolfstar, Jed Hallam, has even blogged about how a PR course is not needed to practice. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For some employers, there has always been a &#8216;dark cloud&#8217;, if you will, around the idea of a PR degree. Some argue that it doesn&#8217;t really teach PR and only work experience is needed along with a &#8216;more academic&#8217; degree. Indeed I have worked with and watched students in my class who do very little work and have poor attendance go on to make it through to the next year; something that a student studying subjects like English or Chemistry would not have been able to do. My college at Wolfstar, Jed Hallam, has even blogged about how a PR course is not needed to practice. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kellyscarrott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kellyscarrott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an English graduate and keep finding myself falling into sales and marketing roles.&lt;br&gt;I want to persue a career into PR, but it&#039;s really difficult seeing as I have no formal business/marketing qualifications!! I&#039;m looking for internships, but even these are difficult to get due to people being more qualified than me.&lt;br&gt;The frustrating part is that I know, if I got the chance, I would learn fast and really work my worth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m an English graduate and keep finding myself falling into sales and marketing roles.<br />I want to persue a career into PR, but it&#39;s really difficult seeing as I have no formal business/marketing qualifications!! I&#39;m looking for internships, but even these are difficult to get due to people being more qualified than me.<br />The frustrating part is that I know, if I got the chance, I would learn fast and really work my worth!</p>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Stop Believin&#8217; &#171; Dutch&#8217;s PR DITCH</title>
		<link>http://rock-star-pr.com/is-a-public-relations-degree-worth-it/comment-page-1/#comment-6303</link>
		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Stop Believin&#8217; &#171; Dutch&#8217;s PR DITCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ever increasing amount of my pondering time.  The relevance of PR degrees is a topic that has been much discussed before.  I have always been a strong supporter of the need for the profession to have academic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ever increasing amount of my pondering time.  The relevance of PR degrees is a topic that has been much discussed before.  I have always been a strong supporter of the need for the profession to have academic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Personal Qualities VS PR Degree &#171; PrVillage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Personal Qualities VS PR Degree &#171; PrVillage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] example, Edelman took on seven graduates last year in September. Of their degrees; two were in History, one in English Literature, one in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Mora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Mora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an American (Denver, Colorado) and it seems that I am in the wrong hemisphere. 

I was in school for two years studying marketing/PR. I soon realized that the education I was being fed was worthless and no where near worthy of its high price tag. I left,&quot;I knew everything&quot;, and stared my own company. I then proceeded to fall flat on my face...but I learned so much more in those eight months than my friends with degrees know now. Beyond knowledge, leaving school, failing and still wanting to press on, only helped me confirm my love for the art of communication.

It seems to me that getting into the American marketing/PR/Ad industry is just about having a degree in anything. I literally know of several people with PR firms that didn&#039;t even know what &quot;PR&quot; was short-hand for until the day they submitted a resume! However, they had a degree in agriculture so all is well.

The thing that riles me about this is that so many of these &quot;practitioners&quot; couldn&#039;t care less about the craft, industry or people they represent, it&#039;s simply a job to them.

 I find solace in hoping that there are still some greats in the marketing world that truly just want to be great. The Ogilvy&#039;s, Ayers and Arden&#039;s of the world. Amazing people that hire people that are even more amazing based on their passion, potential and a sense of obligation to produce astounding work for their clients... not because they were willing to sit still and take note for four years.

That&#039;s my two cents.

-Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an American (Denver, Colorado) and it seems that I am in the wrong hemisphere. </p>
<p>I was in school for two years studying marketing/PR. I soon realized that the education I was being fed was worthless and no where near worthy of its high price tag. I left,&#8221;I knew everything&#8221;, and stared my own company. I then proceeded to fall flat on my face&#8230;but I learned so much more in those eight months than my friends with degrees know now. Beyond knowledge, leaving school, failing and still wanting to press on, only helped me confirm my love for the art of communication.</p>
<p>It seems to me that getting into the American marketing/PR/Ad industry is just about having a degree in anything. I literally know of several people with PR firms that didn&#8217;t even know what &#8220;PR&#8221; was short-hand for until the day they submitted a resume! However, they had a degree in agriculture so all is well.</p>
<p>The thing that riles me about this is that so many of these &#8220;practitioners&#8221; couldn&#8217;t care less about the craft, industry or people they represent, it&#8217;s simply a job to them.</p>
<p> I find solace in hoping that there are still some greats in the marketing world that truly just want to be great. The Ogilvy&#8217;s, Ayers and Arden&#8217;s of the world. Amazing people that hire people that are even more amazing based on their passion, potential and a sense of obligation to produce astounding work for their clients&#8230; not because they were willing to sit still and take note for four years.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my two cents.</p>
<p>-Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Sheffrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Sheffrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed, what a great debate! 

I&#039;m a final year student at Leeds Met studying PR and am writing my dissertation about how pertinent the knowledge gained on the PR degree is to the development of a PR professional. This debate has definitely brought to light some interesting points. 

With PR being one of the top three career choices for graduates we are competing against a whole array of students. At present I am applying for graduate level PR posts however,  it is hard to tell whether employers prefer those with a PR degree or not.

I agree that PR is a personality and that cannot be taught however, I think that as boring as PR theory may seem it has provided me with a great foundation to becoming a better PR professional. 

Although the degree may not have taught me how to become a practitioner, having a weekly placement has definitely enabled me to understand the industry and put my skills and theory into practice.

If it is possible I would like to include some of the comments to this discussion in my dissertation. Would you mind if I did?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed, what a great debate! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a final year student at Leeds Met studying PR and am writing my dissertation about how pertinent the knowledge gained on the PR degree is to the development of a PR professional. This debate has definitely brought to light some interesting points. </p>
<p>With PR being one of the top three career choices for graduates we are competing against a whole array of students. At present I am applying for graduate level PR posts however,  it is hard to tell whether employers prefer those with a PR degree or not.</p>
<p>I agree that PR is a personality and that cannot be taught however, I think that as boring as PR theory may seem it has provided me with a great foundation to becoming a better PR professional. </p>
<p>Although the degree may not have taught me how to become a practitioner, having a weekly placement has definitely enabled me to understand the industry and put my skills and theory into practice.</p>
<p>If it is possible I would like to include some of the comments to this discussion in my dissertation. Would you mind if I did?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very helpful discussion for one like myself who wants to emerge into PR. I am currently in my last year of uni studying a Sport Science and Physical Education degree. So you could say my course has no correlation with PR. But listening to all your comment i now start to believe that there are similarities as in my degree i do look at alot of social issues and media in sport. It is also stated above that you need to have  several personality skill which i again studying my degree you need to be confident in those skill.
Again like thomas mentioned if anyone felt generous enough to enlighten me on the best way to approach PR firms or better still knowledge of firms offering work experience I would be much obliged –</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very helpful discussion for one like myself who wants to emerge into PR. I am currently in my last year of uni studying a Sport Science and Physical Education degree. So you could say my course has no correlation with PR. But listening to all your comment i now start to believe that there are similarities as in my degree i do look at alot of social issues and media in sport. It is also stated above that you need to have  several personality skill which i again studying my degree you need to be confident in those skill.<br />
Again like thomas mentioned if anyone felt generous enough to enlighten me on the best way to approach PR firms or better still knowledge of firms offering work experience I would be much obliged –</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Yaxley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Yaxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see more focus in PR on lifelong learning as having the degree is only one step on a successful career path. 

We all need to keep developing our skills and knowledge and there are opportunities presented by studying for qualifications, attending training courses or conferences, self-improvement from reading and multimedia, as well as actual practice, and networking, mentoring, etc etc etc.

One problem with the &quot;learn on the job&quot; approach is that it depends who is doing the teaching.  Isn&#039;t it likely that many of the really poor PR practices have survived because these are being passed on by those who are unaware (or don&#039;t care) that there are other, better, ways to achieve the end result?

I&#039;m a fan of post-graduate PR qualifications (like Stuart, I gained the CAM qualifications, and I now teach the CIPR ones).  These help those who have gained experience in PR to add the solid foundations of theoretical principles and best practice research to their existing skills.  As such, these qualifications offer a vital lift into management for many and help demonstrate there is more to PR than having a bubbly personality or being able to craft a press release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see more focus in PR on lifelong learning as having the degree is only one step on a successful career path. </p>
<p>We all need to keep developing our skills and knowledge and there are opportunities presented by studying for qualifications, attending training courses or conferences, self-improvement from reading and multimedia, as well as actual practice, and networking, mentoring, etc etc etc.</p>
<p>One problem with the &#8220;learn on the job&#8221; approach is that it depends who is doing the teaching.  Isn&#8217;t it likely that many of the really poor PR practices have survived because these are being passed on by those who are unaware (or don&#8217;t care) that there are other, better, ways to achieve the end result?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a fan of post-graduate PR qualifications (like Stuart, I gained the CAM qualifications, and I now teach the CIPR ones).  These help those who have gained experience in PR to add the solid foundations of theoretical principles and best practice research to their existing skills.  As such, these qualifications offer a vital lift into management for many and help demonstrate there is more to PR than having a bubbly personality or being able to craft a press release.</p>
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