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		<title>By: Benjamin Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 07:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed:  &lt;br&gt;The Internet rearranges power in society.  As Scott Brown (newly-elected United States Senator from the state of Massachusetts) demonstrated, web tools enable POPULIST messages to rise like a flood and overturn the better-financed establishment.  The latest example of an &lt;a href=&quot;http://legal-beagle.typepad.com/wrights_legal_beagle/2010/02/public-relations.html&quot; title=&quot;Internet communications&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ONLINE POPULIST&lt;/a&gt; darling winning a bit of advantage over a powerful adversary is Hillary Machinery Inc. of Plano, Texas. This small business is locked in a strange lawsuit with PlainsCapital Bank, a much larger business.  What is your opinion? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/public-relations&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/public-relations&lt;/a&gt;    --Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed:  <br />The Internet rearranges power in society.  As Scott Brown (newly-elected United States Senator from the state of Massachusetts) demonstrated, web tools enable POPULIST messages to rise like a flood and overturn the better-financed establishment.  The latest example of an <a href="http://legal-beagle.typepad.com/wrights_legal_beagle/2010/02/public-relations.html" title="Internet communications" rel="nofollow">ONLINE POPULIST</a> darling winning a bit of advantage over a powerful adversary is Hillary Machinery Inc. of Plano, Texas. This small business is locked in a strange lawsuit with PlainsCapital Bank, a much larger business.  What is your opinion? </p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/public-relations" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/public-relations</a>    &#8211;Ben</p>
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		<title>By: How to Interact with Bloggers &#171; Annie Blewett</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Interact with Bloggers &#171; Annie Blewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PR is a blog written by Jed Hallem, an employee of Wolfstar, social media consultancy. Hallem cites 5 Things  that traditional PR should learn from PR 2.0; one of which is to form a relationship with the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PR is a blog written by Jed Hallem, an employee of Wolfstar, social media consultancy. Hallem cites 5 Things  that traditional PR should learn from PR 2.0; one of which is to form a relationship with the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Journalists, PRs and Cake &#171; The Seldom Seen Kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalists, PRs and Cake &#171; The Seldom Seen Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reading Jed Hallam&#8217;s post about this &#8216;full and frank discussion&#8217; on Rock Star PR, 5 Things that Traditional PR can Learn from Online PR, and Charles Arthur&#8217;s insightful post looking at the hack/flack relationship, it reminded me [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reading Jed Hallam&#8217;s post about this &#8216;full and frank discussion&#8217; on Rock Star PR, 5 Things that Traditional PR can Learn from Online PR, and Charles Arthur&#8217;s insightful post looking at the hack/flack relationship, it reminded me [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Seeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Seeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;ve never seen a PR person send out a bad pitch, nor have I ever seen anyone target a journalist for a pitch inappropriately, but then I only got into the biz in 1997 and the folks I worked with were brilliant.

However, as my last blog post indicates, I am getting really really tired of people equating public relations with marketing communications. It&#039;s usually marketers who do that, as they attempt to move up the food chain, but it&#039;s often ill-informed mainstream media.


And I&#039;ve always refused to have a fax machine (not sure anyone ever figured out how to use them properly, they were a complicated technology with really tiny complicated buttons).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve never seen a PR person send out a bad pitch, nor have I ever seen anyone target a journalist for a pitch inappropriately, but then I only got into the biz in 1997 and the folks I worked with were brilliant.</p>
<p>However, as my last blog post indicates, I am getting really really tired of people equating public relations with marketing communications. It&#8217;s usually marketers who do that, as they attempt to move up the food chain, but it&#8217;s often ill-informed mainstream media.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve always refused to have a fax machine (not sure anyone ever figured out how to use them properly, they were a complicated technology with really tiny complicated buttons).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Churchill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Churchill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jed thank :-) I think it makes sense sort of...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jed thank <img src='http://rock-star-pr.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think it makes sense sort of&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so maybe I dropped the ball a little bit - like Stuart mentioned, and as I said to Becky McMichael and Nick Leonard on twitter - my digital beginnings have somewhat twisted my vision on how traditional PR has always operated. 

God, I can&#039;t even use a fax machine... Old school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so maybe I dropped the ball a little bit &#8211; like Stuart mentioned, and as I said to Becky McMichael and Nick Leonard on twitter &#8211; my digital beginnings have somewhat twisted my vision on how traditional PR has always operated. </p>
<p>God, I can&#8217;t even use a fax machine&#8230; Old school.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Start with #2 to see who you want to do #1 with. Use #5 and #3 and #4 will come naturally.

This is really how any interpersonal relationship is successful. Do more listening than you do talking - you&#039;ll learn a lot more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start with #2 to see who you want to do #1 with. Use #5 and #3 and #4 will come naturally.</p>
<p>This is really how any interpersonal relationship is successful. Do more listening than you do talking &#8211; you&#8217;ll learn a lot more.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Stuart and co, these five points are pretty much the holy grail of &#039;traditional&#039; PR or media relations.

I&#039;ve only been working in social media for a few months, but as far as I&#039;m concerned, you need to take the same approach whether you&#039;re practicing traditional or new media relations.

Cultivate individual relationships - always been the case. You need to get to know your journalist, read their articles find out what they like etc if you&#039;re ever going to work well with them.

Spend time (hours, if possible) reading through the work of the individual - as above, I always try to have read the last three things the person I&#039;m contacting has written. It gives you an in-road and also boosts their ego a bit!

Ensure that what you’re sending to the individual is relevant to them - again, if you know your audience this should be easy.

Learn how they like to be approached - This is trial and error. Everyone is different and the only way to find out is to try or ask! Some people prefer a phone call, others an email - and in SM I suppose a Twitter message or Skype call!
 
Be human with them - we are all people! Take off the PR or journo hat and we all like to be spoken to like a real person, not a job title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Stuart and co, these five points are pretty much the holy grail of &#8216;traditional&#8217; PR or media relations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only been working in social media for a few months, but as far as I&#8217;m concerned, you need to take the same approach whether you&#8217;re practicing traditional or new media relations.</p>
<p>Cultivate individual relationships &#8211; always been the case. You need to get to know your journalist, read their articles find out what they like etc if you&#8217;re ever going to work well with them.</p>
<p>Spend time (hours, if possible) reading through the work of the individual &#8211; as above, I always try to have read the last three things the person I&#8217;m contacting has written. It gives you an in-road and also boosts their ego a bit!</p>
<p>Ensure that what you’re sending to the individual is relevant to them &#8211; again, if you know your audience this should be easy.</p>
<p>Learn how they like to be approached &#8211; This is trial and error. Everyone is different and the only way to find out is to try or ask! Some people prefer a phone call, others an email &#8211; and in SM I suppose a Twitter message or Skype call!</p>
<p>Be human with them &#8211; we are all people! Take off the PR or journo hat and we all like to be spoken to like a real person, not a job title.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these five things are great but they have (or should have) been done in traditional PR for years! As a college student in PR, we learned this in our Intro to PR, PR Writing and Advanced PR Writing courses (repetition=retention?).  The problem is that too many practicing professionals dismiss these early lessons because they might not be &quot;expedient.&quot; But when you think about it, it is always faster and easier to do something right the first time, than to have to go back and fix something you half-heartedly did. It&#039;s kinda funny that you have this as &quot;Traditional learning from Online&quot; when in really its more like &quot;Online doing what Traditional should have been doing (and claimed to be doing) in the first place.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these five things are great but they have (or should have) been done in traditional PR for years! As a college student in PR, we learned this in our Intro to PR, PR Writing and Advanced PR Writing courses (repetition=retention?).  The problem is that too many practicing professionals dismiss these early lessons because they might not be &#8220;expedient.&#8221; But when you think about it, it is always faster and easier to do something right the first time, than to have to go back and fix something you half-heartedly did. It&#8217;s kinda funny that you have this as &#8220;Traditional learning from Online&#8221; when in really its more like &#8220;Online doing what Traditional should have been doing (and claimed to be doing) in the first place.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Whatmough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Whatmough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Stuart, these are the best bits of offline PR that anyone beginning in &#039;online PR&#039; (still hate that term) should really get to grips with. In many ways, there have been too many wide brush-strokes in the journo/PR debate of the last week or so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Stuart, these are the best bits of offline PR that anyone beginning in &#8216;online PR&#8217; (still hate that term) should really get to grips with. In many ways, there have been too many wide brush-strokes in the journo/PR debate of the last week or so&#8230;</p>
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